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	<title>Comments on: Can Natural Gas Replace Coal?</title>
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		<title>By: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-4370</link>
		<dc:creator>Maureen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 10:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello there, just stopped by doing some research for my website.  Amazing the amount of information on the web.  Not quite what i was looking for, but very nice site.  Cya later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there, just stopped by doing some research for my website.  Amazing the amount of information on the web.  Not quite what i was looking for, but very nice site.  Cya later.</p>
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		<title>By: plumbing</title>
		<link>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-3200</link>
		<dc:creator>plumbing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've watched an educational film wherein they used coal instead of natural gas. And it was really impressive. We have to limit the use of our natural resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched an educational film wherein they used coal instead of natural gas. And it was really impressive. We have to limit the use of our natural resources.</p>
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		<title>By: bill cormeny</title>
		<link>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>bill cormeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-852</guid>
		<description>Mr. Buffett purchased enough right of way to provided almost all the gas needs of the country's Midwestern  and Western utilities.Besides the major production center of coal,the Powder River Basin has enormous reserves of newly processed gasification of shale.His railroad which has miles of coal cars which can be converted into pipelines.If Congress wishes they can underwrite the boiler conversions with tax incentives.
The Texas,Indiana,Pennsylvania gas can easily provide enough supply for the Northeast.
Bechtel  and GE can create a enough conversion boiler contracts to keep our economy stimulated for the next five or ten years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Buffett purchased enough right of way to provided almost all the gas needs of the country&#8217;s Midwestern  and Western utilities.Besides the major production center of coal,the Powder River Basin has enormous reserves of newly processed gasification of shale.His railroad which has miles of coal cars which can be converted into pipelines.If Congress wishes they can underwrite the boiler conversions with tax incentives.<br />
The Texas,Indiana,Pennsylvania gas can easily provide enough supply for the Northeast.<br />
Bechtel  and GE can create a enough conversion boiler contracts to keep our economy stimulated for the next five or ten years.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Pullins</title>
		<link>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-850</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Pullins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the statements about natural gas-fired generation creating less CO2 emissions than coal and that natural gas-fired generation could yield an immediate reduction in CO2 are true, we must understand a few things behind these statements. 
 
First, natural gas-fired CO2 emissions are about 50% of the current generation of circulating fluidized bed coal-fired plants.  This may not be true in the future as more coal plants utilize gasification processes.  

Second, there is a reason natural gas-fired generation has low utilization today.  While it is cheap to build, it is very expensive to operate.  Natural gas-fired generation is a the top of the production cost model even with currently reasonable natural gas prices. There are several factors that will cause the cost of natural gas as fuel to go up.  (1) If we use more natural gas-fired generation, that demand will drive natural gas prices up.  We know this from experience.  (2) As we bring more domestic shale gas into the fuel inventory, prices will go up because that extraction method is more expensive than what we have today. (3) As Europe, the Middle East, and other developing regions use more natural-gas fired generation, the cost of importing natural gas will increase.  These cost drivers are just as fast-acting as starting up the natural gas-fired plants to replace coal-fired generation. 

Third, if you increase the use of natural-gas fired generation in the US, then heating costs for businesses and residences will increase, and worst time being winter.  In addition, we would see the return of 60%-70% annual price volatility in natural gas, which makes it very difficult for John Q Public to manage the costs at home.

Fourth, moving in a direction of using natural gas-fired generation to reduce CO2 emissions would give us a false sense of accomplishment.  If you replaced all the coal generation, the US power generation CO2 emissions contribution drops from about 8% to 4%.  Many people and groups would claim success with the resultant poliitics taking the heat off of truly solving emissions problems.

Fifth, if you take this study, some simple economic analysis, and some NETL studies about costs for next generation plants and carbon management, the result is a wash in relation to the delivered energy cost of using a \&#34;clean coal\&#34; fleet with carbon management and a natural gas-fired centric fleet with its sure to be higher costs of natural gas.

It is a shame that we have a trillion dollar natural gas-fired generation fleet operating at 10% - 30% capacity, but the cost of the fuel may preclude it from being a 75% capacity fleet today, and certainly tomorrow.  I am not convinced that such a plan, or the Pickens Plan, gives us the best long-term strategy or even a bridging strategy.

This would require a more complete systems analysis to truly see if the nation would benefit from such a strategy, or if it would be just another quick and half-dirty dead end.

Steven Pullins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the statements about natural gas-fired generation creating less CO2 emissions than coal and that natural gas-fired generation could yield an immediate reduction in CO2 are true, we must understand a few things behind these statements. </p>
<p>First, natural gas-fired CO2 emissions are about 50% of the current generation of circulating fluidized bed coal-fired plants.  This may not be true in the future as more coal plants utilize gasification processes.  </p>
<p>Second, there is a reason natural gas-fired generation has low utilization today.  While it is cheap to build, it is very expensive to operate.  Natural gas-fired generation is a the top of the production cost model even with currently reasonable natural gas prices. There are several factors that will cause the cost of natural gas as fuel to go up.  (1) If we use more natural gas-fired generation, that demand will drive natural gas prices up.  We know this from experience.  (2) As we bring more domestic shale gas into the fuel inventory, prices will go up because that extraction method is more expensive than what we have today. (3) As Europe, the Middle East, and other developing regions use more natural-gas fired generation, the cost of importing natural gas will increase.  These cost drivers are just as fast-acting as starting up the natural gas-fired plants to replace coal-fired generation. </p>
<p>Third, if you increase the use of natural-gas fired generation in the US, then heating costs for businesses and residences will increase, and worst time being winter.  In addition, we would see the return of 60%-70% annual price volatility in natural gas, which makes it very difficult for John Q Public to manage the costs at home.</p>
<p>Fourth, moving in a direction of using natural gas-fired generation to reduce CO2 emissions would give us a false sense of accomplishment.  If you replaced all the coal generation, the US power generation CO2 emissions contribution drops from about 8% to 4%.  Many people and groups would claim success with the resultant poliitics taking the heat off of truly solving emissions problems.</p>
<p>Fifth, if you take this study, some simple economic analysis, and some NETL studies about costs for next generation plants and carbon management, the result is a wash in relation to the delivered energy cost of using a \&quot;clean coal\&quot; fleet with carbon management and a natural gas-fired centric fleet with its sure to be higher costs of natural gas.</p>
<p>It is a shame that we have a trillion dollar natural gas-fired generation fleet operating at 10% - 30% capacity, but the cost of the fuel may preclude it from being a 75% capacity fleet today, and certainly tomorrow.  I am not convinced that such a plan, or the Pickens Plan, gives us the best long-term strategy or even a bridging strategy.</p>
<p>This would require a more complete systems analysis to truly see if the nation would benefit from such a strategy, or if it would be just another quick and half-dirty dead end.</p>
<p>Steven Pullins</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Odza</title>
		<link>http://www.pennwellblogs.com/power/2010/02/10/can-natural-gas-replace-coal/#comment-846</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Odza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've read elsewhere that it's feasible to replace coal with natural gas in coal-fired plants -- that modifying such a plant is not very expensive or difficult. Would that not render moot all the issues about where existing natural gas plants and excess capacity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read elsewhere that it&#8217;s feasible to replace coal with natural gas in coal-fired plants &#8212; that modifying such a plant is not very expensive or difficult. Would that not render moot all the issues about where existing natural gas plants and excess capacity?</p>
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